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Mario Pasquato's avatar

Interesting take, though it is a bit unfair to take Ptolemy as the flag bearer of Greek science, since he was writing in imperial times, mostly trying to reconstruct hellenistic theories from whatever books were left after the catastrophic decline of scientific knowledge following the Roman conquest of the Mediterranean three centuries earlier. Perhaps both the Indic system and whatever survived in the west in Ptolemy's time are echoes of the same hellenistic sources, now mostly lost.

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yuliy's avatar

an answer to “the Indian half of Needham’s question” is given in the (blistering) overview of the "Indic Systems of Knowledge" at

https://breakthroughindia.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Breakthrough-Feb22.pdf:

'after the 9th century, science in India declined, and after the 11th century, very little science was left. In the book “History of Hindu Chemistry” [15], Acharya P C Ray attributed the decline and fall of science in India to three causative factors:

1. Due to the ascent of a rigid caste system, the doers and the thinkers no longer exchanged knowledge and experience.

2. The do’s and don’ts of the shastras (in particular, the Manu Samhita) made it impossible for practitioners of medicine and surgery to teach the next generation because dissection of dead bodies became impossible (only shudras were allowed to touch cadavers).

3. A large section of the intelligentsia became influenced by the ‘maya’ philosophy of Shankara, which saw the material world as an illusion. Naturally, they were no longer inclined to probe the character of the material world.

After the 11th century, the light of science was practically extinguished, and India plunged into a Dark Age.'

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